Sextuple Wisdom from Robert Fulford
Extract from ongoing thread on the Nottingham Board:
>From: "Pete Trimmer" <Pete.Trimmer@ukes.aerospace.gknplc.com>>When you're good enough to attempt sxp's, you'll be happy to take your>peels when you're for 3b. I know Rob used to prefer to leave it to 3b>rather than rushing to 2b, but may be changing his mind these days. Reg>is always desperate to get his peels in ASAP; he'd probably want to peel>4b getting a rush to 1 if he got the chance...
From: "Robert Fulford":
Happy to try to peel 4b getting a rush to 2b if confident of having escape ball nicely placed roughly a yard west of 4b so peg is relatively out of play and close enough to 4b that getting dolly rush isn't hard. Can't say it's a case to rushing to 2b rather than 3b because I still leave my 3b pioneer near 4b. Used to be less agressive at getting earlier peels done so rarely had opportunity to be nicely set up for peel before 2b.Still learning but following is the nearest thing to plan A for my sextuples currently for those who are interested.Peel 1b peel ideally right down to 2b after 2 getting rush to north boundary. Play split stopshot sending escape ball to besides 2b going to hoop 3 pioneer. At least jaws 2b getting rush to 4. After 4 leave pioneer behind just NW of 3b as escape ball, take off to peelee. Probably have hoop 5 pioneer between 5 and 2b so could have been used to peel 2b then if necessary. Tap peelee so easy to send to 3b getting rush to 5. Make 5 and rush to S boundary between corner 3 and in front of 3b. Send pioneer to 1b getting rush to peeling position. Peel getting rush to 6. Don't tend to leave myself space to get the peelee up to 4b that shot as would have less options peeling going to escape ball furthur away, downside is never get 4b peel before 1b. Try to get a rush out of 6 to west of 4b so can then place escape ball taking off to peelee (If I don't get this rush tend to give up on peeling before 2b and send pioneer to 2b). Having taken off to the peelee, any kind of rush NWish allows a relatively easy shot sending peelee to 4b going to 1b. After 1b could rush to a spot where can send pioneer to 3b getting rush on peelee but prefer to rush close to peelee and leave 3b pioneer 2 yards S and a yard W of 4b. If the peel jawses (and remember can't play peel as straight stopshot) having pioneer at 3b doesn't look that great, won't be able to send peelee to right in front of penult and hoop 3 is going to be in the way of the thick take off. Obviously if peel fails completely can try again before 3b with pioneer at 4b. If peel jawses or goes through before 2b as Robin says can do delayed double.*Probably the most critical shots for me in the whole sextuple are getting the 1b peel through cleanly down to 2b and then placing the escape ball for the rush across to 4. Sending out escape ball from 28 yards and would really like to play 2b peel with straight stopshot so not much room for error. Starting to experiment with making the sextuple leave so my hoop 1 ball is near corner 3 and partner is about 3 yards from 4b so it is technically wired from both oppos. If the opponent misses have space to send their ball SE of 2 so can possibly peel 1b going to that ball before 2. Only want to go for this peel if positive it will go through but if you can get it through some distance gives much better chance of being well set up for peel getting rush to 4.
>From: "Pete Trimmer" <Pete.Trimmer@ukes.aerospace.gknplc.com>>When you're good enough to attempt sxp's, you'll be happy to take your>peels when you're for 3b. I know Rob used to prefer to leave it to 3b>rather than rushing to 2b, but may be changing his mind these days. Reg>is always desperate to get his peels in ASAP; he'd probably want to peel>4b getting a rush to 1 if he got the chance...
From: "Robert Fulford":
Happy to try to peel 4b getting a rush to 2b if confident of having escape ball nicely placed roughly a yard west of 4b so peg is relatively out of play and close enough to 4b that getting dolly rush isn't hard. Can't say it's a case to rushing to 2b rather than 3b because I still leave my 3b pioneer near 4b. Used to be less agressive at getting earlier peels done so rarely had opportunity to be nicely set up for peel before 2b.Still learning but following is the nearest thing to plan A for my sextuples currently for those who are interested.Peel 1b peel ideally right down to 2b after 2 getting rush to north boundary. Play split stopshot sending escape ball to besides 2b going to hoop 3 pioneer. At least jaws 2b getting rush to 4. After 4 leave pioneer behind just NW of 3b as escape ball, take off to peelee. Probably have hoop 5 pioneer between 5 and 2b so could have been used to peel 2b then if necessary. Tap peelee so easy to send to 3b getting rush to 5. Make 5 and rush to S boundary between corner 3 and in front of 3b. Send pioneer to 1b getting rush to peeling position. Peel getting rush to 6. Don't tend to leave myself space to get the peelee up to 4b that shot as would have less options peeling going to escape ball furthur away, downside is never get 4b peel before 1b. Try to get a rush out of 6 to west of 4b so can then place escape ball taking off to peelee (If I don't get this rush tend to give up on peeling before 2b and send pioneer to 2b). Having taken off to the peelee, any kind of rush NWish allows a relatively easy shot sending peelee to 4b going to 1b. After 1b could rush to a spot where can send pioneer to 3b getting rush on peelee but prefer to rush close to peelee and leave 3b pioneer 2 yards S and a yard W of 4b. If the peel jawses (and remember can't play peel as straight stopshot) having pioneer at 3b doesn't look that great, won't be able to send peelee to right in front of penult and hoop 3 is going to be in the way of the thick take off. Obviously if peel fails completely can try again before 3b with pioneer at 4b. If peel jawses or goes through before 2b as Robin says can do delayed double.*Probably the most critical shots for me in the whole sextuple are getting the 1b peel through cleanly down to 2b and then placing the escape ball for the rush across to 4. Sending out escape ball from 28 yards and would really like to play 2b peel with straight stopshot so not much room for error. Starting to experiment with making the sextuple leave so my hoop 1 ball is near corner 3 and partner is about 3 yards from 4b so it is technically wired from both oppos. If the opponent misses have space to send their ball SE of 2 so can possibly peel 1b going to that ball before 2. Only want to go for this peel if positive it will go through but if you can get it through some distance gives much better chance of being well set up for peel getting rush to 4.
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